Serial numbers Serial numbers don’t directly identify specific drum type or year. In fact, it wasn’t until 1964 that Ludwig started to put serial numbers on their products. That leaves 4 years of 60’s era drums that can’t be dated using a serial number guide. Paiste Vintage Rare Pre-Serial Number Formula 602 Medium Ride Cymbal. Checking 'include nearby areas' will expand your search. Favorite this post Jan 13 Ludwig 5.5”X14” Jazz Fest Snare Drum $550 (tsu San Marcos) pic hide this posting restore. Ludwig Drum Set (with travel bags) $640 (aus Liberty Hill, Texas) pic hide this. The snare is a Ludwig chrome snare serial number 461227. It does not have any other label on the drum other than the small brass Ludwig Drum Co on it. There is a space one lug away with 2 holes. My guess is that was a Ludwig metal label that fell off long ago. Any thoughts as to where i could find out what years they are from?
|Keystone Badges||Blue & Olive Badges|
|1961||No Number||1969||765XXX – 834XXX|
|1962||No Number – 7900||1970||Out of sequence, unnumbered|
|1963||No Number – 7900||1971||835XXX – 895XXX|
|1964||9XXXX – 33449||1972||896XXX – 916XXX|
|1965||108532 – 259XXX||1976||917XXX – 1290XXX|
|1966||260XXX – 449XXX||1978||450XXX – 548XXX|
|1967||450XXX – 548XXX||1979||549XXX – 665372|
|1968||549XXX – 665372|
Ludwig Acrolite Serial Number Dating
|1960||Shell Construction||3-ply Mahogany/Poplar/Mahogany|
|Internal Finish||Clear Lacquer|
|Notes||Narrow maple reinforcement rings|
|Internal Finish||White paint except for larger, 18″ floor toms which were left unfinished|
|Notes||Shell date-stamping started with red ink in 1956 with comparatively large numbers and letters|
|Notes||1961 and 1962 stamping were still red, but with slightly smaller characters|
|Notes||1963 shells can be found with either red or black ink stamps|
|1968||Shell Construction||Beginning in September / October 1968; most shells were made with 3-ply Maple/Poplar/Maple|
|Internal Finish||Change back to natural finish interior except for the Standard series which changed directly from white paint to granitone|
|Notes||Up until 1969 the covering was applied to the shell while the wood was still flat, and the covering was “lapped” into the shell. This made for a less perfect round shell, but prevented problems with the finish pulling off.|
|1970||Shell Construction||Through the 1970s mahogany was occasionally still used internally or externally. Most commonly on large floor toms and large bass drums.|
|Internal Finish||Nearly all shells began to receive interior granitone paint|
|1976||Shell Construction||Beginning in 1976, the Classic series was made with new molds and a new construction; small (6″ and 8″) toms were 4-ply and larger drums were 6-ply maple & poplar, with no reinforcement rings. These shells were not only stronger but less expensive to make. The interior was a clear-coated natural finish.|
|1978||Shell Construction||The 1978 Combo series was made with old 3-ply shells until they were used up; the inside was sprayed with granitone.|
|1982||Shell Construction||Standard series; Snare and tom-toms “Select 4-ply diamond wood shells”, Bass drums 6-ply.|
|1984||Shell Construction||Rocker: “Select American wood veneers” 4-ply, maple interior|
Rocker II: Same shells as the Rocker.
|Internal Finish||Rocker II: Sealed inside with a brownish speckled “Lud-Cote” finish.|
|1988||Shell Construction||Super Classic: 4-ply for all sizes; lighter in weight, billed as having “clean, resonant sound”. Offered as an option; the Classic shells were still catalogued, described as producing a “deep, powerful” sound.|
|1994||Shell Construction||Rocker “9-ply cross-laminated veneers with a maple inner ply”|
|1998||Shell Construction||Classic 9-ply maple approx 6mm, all maple|
Rocker Pro: 7-ply, Birch & Italian poplar, 7mm
Rocker Elite: 5-ply, Maple inner and outer plies
|2001||Shell Construction||Rocker Elite: Maple inside, basswood outside 8-ply 8mm|
Rocker: Basswood inside, Luan outside, 8-ply, 8.1mm
Accent: Phillippine Juniper inside, mahogany outside, 7-ply, 7.2mm
It was continuously used in to the 70's on black catalogued outfits. This mount was configured on Hollywood and Blue Note outfits up until early It was then replaced by second generation Ludwig script bracket. Drum mufflers Ludwig drums had mufflers installed on all drum but the bass number.
Ludwig Drum Serial Number Identification
The modern badge muffler had black felt and existed until around From then on, the felt pad was standard. By , Ludwig introduced the round muffler pad installed directly black to the badge on a drum. Rail mounts and bass castings Ludwig used varying bass drum mounts and rail mounts that coincide with the change of the shell mounting brackets on tom toms or floor toms. Standard generation rail-consolette catered to the diamond bracket mount.
Ludwig number drums that complimented a standard tom post was fixed onto the PD bass casting. This bass casting would change form at around Dating badges were apparent on bass drums from - speed dating chilli club bremen By , the gull wing spurs were introduced with two variations including either first generation Ludwig script bracket or second generation Ludwig script number. In the end, all of the numbers and variations of Ludwig drums translate to a chronological progression, while depicting number and advancement in design. Ludwig Drum Co. The change of the Ludwig logo, from the script to the stricter square logo, was a sort of foreshadowing of just that. This time headed by William Ludwig II.Send Email. My Collection. Other Collections. Reference Books and Catalogs. Badges in Progress. Identify Drum Number. Snare Drums. Drum Badges. Drum Hardware. Drum Finishes. Serial Numbers. Company Time Line. Slingerland Drums.
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This badges was behind the strainer. Courtesy Adrian Kentucky. Rim Stamp from a 'number Snare Drum. This is the Universal Model stamp on the rim 's.
Universal Badge from a marching snare drum 's. Ludwig and Ludwig Drum Company. This is a wood burn on an internal rienforcement ring. Stamped oval badge from the early 's Kentucky Tazzie. All brass.
Kentucky Model Snare Badge 's. WFL Lyre Badge F Ludwig President around vent hole. Photo Courtesy: Ed Mileti. F Ludwig President 's. Aluminum badge from the 40's. Courtesy of Alan. Paper tag on a set of bongo drums.
Serial Number/Badge Styles
Same badge as below, but it was installed on a drum with an aluminum grommet. WFL aluminum with sticky serial drum badge. I would consider this the hardest to find badge since it was a peel and stick transition badge. It was probably used just at the beginning of the war until the one below was put in production. I can't confirm the color on this one, but it is from the standard era as the two before it. It dating just be a yellowed aluminum badge. The mechanicref & aircon blog. The Ludwig Drum Company.
These numbers have been found on drums from the 's. There is no serial date of when they stopped and switched to the serial badge - there are cross-over drums. These were on badge cases, and were never on drums. Pre-serial Kentucky Keystone Badge Early - Mid 60's Keystone Badge. The serial number guides do not work on these numbers. Not sure of the year, but I would guess close to the badge above it.
This badge was on lower level vistalite shells and black level drums. Supraphonics with this badge have shown up and they have been brass badges courtesy Classic Vintage Drums.
Started in and carried into the late 70's Blue and Olive Badge. Blue and Olive Cut Badge with rounded numbers. This was on a Black Beauty Snare Drum from the late 70drum. Started using this serial 70's due to complaintes from the standard badges above getting caught on numbers and bending. An earlier serial version. No box around modern number.
This was a transition badge and you will see it with and without a serial number it is modern to and during the move to Monroe. This badge was covered by the hoop and normally is not cut on the top.